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Biodiesel/veggie oil users check in!

I am interested to hear of everybody's experiences in using alternative fuels in their diesels. I have been toying with the idea of converting as well, but have had little time to maintain my cars much less convert. Anyway, I recently read of a number of people just putting the veggie oil straight into their normal tanks and running business as usual.

Being that I live in the desert, this seems like a good option for me as the veggie oil would stay plenty warm regardless of time of day. Is there any reason I should not try this? If the car does not start in the morning, I do have spares...

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running B100

i run B100 biodiesel in my 80' 300D

also we just sold our 4runner and bought my wife a 2005 Passat Wagon TDI that is running its first tank on B100, and everyone hereafter, on B100.

Justin at http://www.Greaseworks.com can sell you kits to change out your older than 95' hoses to synthetic viton hoses. Biodiesel can degrade the rubber in older hoses, but even then it only happens to some, you can just monitor it if you don't feel like changing them all out. that's the only change. the kit with all the Viton hoses for my 300D was $80. my mechanic is putting them right now.

Biodiesel is becoming more widely available with new stations opening monthly pretty much in every major city except boston and la because of CARB.

to me - biodiesel is the only sustainable solution on the immediate horizon. i also have an electric bicycle made by Giant that i love, but biodiesel for auto transport is the only thing you can do right now that is 100% sustainable, fun, and works with both old and new technology.

i would have considered a gas mercedes or a gas hybrid that took flex fuel, though i probably would still have chosen biodiesel, if there was even one station in seattle area that carried 85% Ethanol (E85) that can go in flex fuel cars. Biodiesel is fantastic and the positive all far outweigh any negatives.
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i have chosen against dealing with veggie oil because it you have to filter it, and that just is a slow and messy process. most restaurants just have it sitting in 55 gallon drums with bits of chicken and french fries still floating around in it.

you can buy it prefiltered from some greasecar enthusiasts, but then you might as well just buy biodiesel itself.
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Unfortunately there is no station nearby that sells biodiesel. That leaves only veggie oil for me...

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if you are going to be messing around with 55 gallon drums anyway (you could have biodiesel shipped pretty easy to you in 55 gallon drums) then i agree that veggie oil is pretty amazing. it would be fun to do, check out http://www.greasecar.com also -- i think they discuss the ramifications of trying to run it straight in your tank without putting in the auxilary vegoil tank.
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Thanks!

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also -- california discussion can be found here

http://forums.biodieselnow.com/default.asp
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grease

I run 100% veggie oil in my 300d and have many friends around town that do the same ..
I just pour it straight into the tank ( after filtering of course) and have been running that way for about 2 years.. I also plan to run my boat (twin MB diesels) in the same configuration
In the very short (and mild) winter here in FLA I have to run an inline heater

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wow! can you add something about your experience with dealing with the used oil, your sources, if its messy, what you do to keep it from being to messy, etc.

cheers!

p.s. love your boat project site. i have a sailboat running on biodiesel also - think i'll add it to my profile
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Jason,

How do you filter the VO? I was thinking of making a rig with a self-priming 12v pump, a water seperator/filter, and of course hose with an intake tube and screen attached to the end. I could transfer the VO to a temporary tank for better filtration in the garage later.

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