[sjcallas]

I've been a die hard Benzo fan ever since i was born. the E55 AMG has always been my favorite, but over the past years, i would've taken the M5 over the E55. Let's get serious here, the M5 is overall better than the E55, only but a bit, but it is better. Plus, it's in stick. But yesterday when i went to the Chicago Auto Show and saw the new version of my baby on display, i held back an orgasm. Forget M5. I don't care if it's faster. They way the new E55 looks and all of it's features i'd take it over 10 M5s and a 750il any day.

 

[treynor]

Ahhh, but you haven't seen the new M5 yet. However, after my poor reliability experience with the '00 M5, I am giving Mercedes a try. Got an order in for a '03 E55 last week.

 

[sjcallas]

Ahhh, but you haven't seen the new M5 yet.

On the contrary, i have, and when it comes to comparing looks over everything else, the E55 takes the crown away from the M5. Don't get me wrong, the new M5 is also a beautiful car, but whoever designed the new E55 needs to know that the elegance and sexyness of the car he disigned has put a smile on thousands of faces worldwide.

 

[toekneepark]

you guys have too much money!! =P..

i'm a poor college student with a WRX, but you gotta love these MB's and BMW's.... just beautiful.. anyone want to donate? =)

 

[sjcallas]

i don't have too much money. My daddy is rich

 

[RivermasterNC]

I read a post recently about the maintenance costs on the M5. The gist was that BMW specifies their private labeled oil and ATF, and the warranty would be contested if not followed to the letter. I do not recall the cost of the ATF, but the engine oil was on the order of $9US/qt.

 

[Big Country]

First off, Rivermaster NC,

I've got a 2001 M5 and you don't need special BMW oil, rather you need top quality oil, as you would in most any high performance engine. Needless to say, when you but cheep watery honda civic oil into a complex S62 engine and the engine explodes, BMW will not cover you on warranty.

To the others, I dare you to drive the BMW M5 and see what you think. Actually, I'd recomend a driving school first, (great reviews on BMW M school) and learn to drive well, because with my experience, many benz drivers would rather cruise than carve.

IMO, When you hit the mountain roads in a Bimmer with your hand on the gear box and perfect weight distribution, you can't get a better feeling. keep in mind more power doesn't make a better car... toekeneepark may know what i'm talking about.

well to each his own,
-Pat

 

[RivermasterNC]

I incorrectly posted as a M5. The post was actually regarding an M3. I'm out of my area of knowlege here as a MB Disel driver. Here's a copy of the post as previously read:

[MB] OT: You think M1 is $$$?
John Freer [email protected]
Tue May 6 10:05:24 2003


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Car and Driver had long term test of BMW M3. Used 14 quarts of oil in 30K
miles BETWEEN scheduled oil changes. BMW requires Castrol TWS or Formula RS
10W-60 synthetic and can only be found at BMW dealers at $9.00/quart! BMW
reports cases of engine failure if this oil isn't used.

How silly is this?

John Freer
Palm Springs, CA
1983 300SD 198K "Scruples"
2002 320 Multi-purpose Leichtkraftwagen

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[MB] OT: You think M1 is $$$?
Stu Ritter [email protected]
Tue May 6 10:42:04 2003

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> Car and Driver had long term test of BMW M3. Used 14 quarts of oil in 30K
> miles BETWEEN scheduled oil changes. BMW requires Castrol TWS or Formula RS
> 10W-60 synthetic and can only be found at BMW dealers at $9.00/quart! BMW
> reports cases of engine failure if this oil isn't used.
>
> How silly is this?
>
> John Freer

If you think the motor oil is expensive, price the transmission oil.
BMW is on a tear. Tearing up wallets and bank accounts, that is!

Stu

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Note, Stu is the Technical Editor of The Star (MBCA Magazine).

 

[Big Country]

Hey RivermasterNC,

thanks for clearing that up, real interesting. BMWs loved being maintained well, i guess in this case even at a cost. this is where the choice comes in when you decide on a car.

enjoy the drive,
-Pat

 

[bdiddy]

First off, Rivermaster NC,

I've got a 2001 M5 and you don't need special BMW oil, rather you need top quality oil, as you would in most any high performance engine. Needless to say, when you but cheep watery honda civic oil into a complex S62 engine and the engine explodes, BMW will not cover you on warranty.

To the others, I dare you to drive the BMW M5 and see what you think. Actually, I'd recomend a driving school first, (great reviews on BMW M school) and learn to drive well, because with my experience, many benz drivers would rather cruise than carve.

IMO, When you hit the mountain roads in a Bimmer with your hand on the gear box and perfect weight distribution, you can't get a better feeling. keep in mind more power doesn't make a better car... toekeneepark may know what i'm talking about.

well to each his own,
-Pat

Yo Pat! I've had both the M5 and the E55 on road courses and the E handles better on the track than the M. The M is quicker, but the E is faster. The M has gross understeer and the E is very well balanced. I've "carved" with many cars at Willow Springs, Buttonwillow, Laguna Seca...

Both great cars, I only wish the E came with a manual trans. I'll keep the E for now, the new M5 is supposed to be considerably lighter and you know the power that's on the way for that car....hmmmm... BUT it's not exactly pretty!


To each his own? I'll take the better car...FOR NOW.

 

[Dan I am]

I'm a new guy here so I hope I don't step on any toes. My dad drives an E class and I'm a Bimmer guy. I would take the current E55 over the M5 simply because the power is so much greater. That being said, I just read a blurb about the '05 M5 in Motor Trend. I'll give you guys some of the details:

5.5 liter normally aspirated V-10
9000 rpm redline
~3700lb curb weight
somewhere between 500-550 bhp
0-60 - 3.9 seconds

These are hard numbers to argue with if you're the E55. I just wish BMW would fire Chris Bangle because I'm not sure about the new look. Maybe I'll get used to it. :?